[Hobby Scuffles] Week of 31 July, 2023 (2024)

"The most interesting subreddit about things you're not interested in."

A place where people can post dramatic and controversial stories, events and situations within their specific circles, usually consisting of events others may not have heard of.

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What is a hobby? What is Hobby Drama?

For the purposes of our subreddit, a hobby community is "a group of people who are connected by their active participation in a particular activity during their free time for personal enjoyment".

Examples of hobbies include: cosplay, model rocketry, fanfiction, blogging, historical reenactment, gaming, fanart, participating in forums, gardening, cooking, playing sports, composing music, making memes, collecting, backpacking, knitting, reading, and many, many more.

Hobby Drama is an event which happened in a hobby that created meaningful controversy within the community involved. Hobby Drama-worthy events might have ousted someone from the community, shaped perception of the hobby, altered the rules the hobby uses, divided the community, created a new faction, caused significant outrage, etc. They are not blink-and-you'll-miss-it catfights with no consequences or internet influencers being rude to each other.

What is not a hobby? What is NOT Hobby Drama?

Most drama between professionals is not hobby drama, e.g. professional sports teams, YouTubers, streamers, actors, scientists, etc., unless the professionals are interacting with hobbyists/fans. Current events, news, real-world politics, following a social media account, and being internet famous do not qualify as hobbies. Mods reserve the right to make exceptions for particularly bizarre or niche write-ups.

Drama must have active involvement by hobbyists to qualify as hobby drama. It cannot be a contained event between professionals where hobbyists had no involvement or no impact on the perception of the occurrence. A TV show finale being bad isn't hobby drama; the fandom reaction leading to it being called 'the worst TV finale ever' might be.

What is a Hobby Drama post?

A high-quality, well thought-out post about a dramatic event in a hobby space. Readers overwhelmingly prefer posts which lay out the history, stakes, events, and consequences of the drama, and which include receipts like screenshots or chat logs. Posts should have minimal direct involvement by the poster and not be overwhelmingly biased, and any personal information of participants who are not public figures must be censored.

What is NOT a Hobby Drama post?

A short paragraph, one liner, a post directly asking for advice or a post that is fabricated or fictional. Please see the wiki for more information.

A Note on Hobby History

For posters who want to infodump about the history of their favorite hobby or a particularly interesting moment in it, we allow Hobby History posts. Hobby History posts do not need to be dramatic. Since they're meant to be historical, they can focus entirely on professionals in a space. They can explain the background events leading up to a dramatic event, or explain the minutiae of how a hobby works; recount a legend of the hobby that’s not quite drama, or just give context on how this hobbyist community works.

A note on Flair

If a post discusses subjects that might be shocking, unpleasant or distressing to readers, it must be flaired Heavy. The NSFW tag should also be used when appropriate.

Otherwise, if a post is a Hobby History, it should use one of the blue History length flairs, and if not, one of the red length flairs. The maximum length of a post is 40 000 characters, so an Extra Long post might be more than 25 000 characters, a Long post might be over 15 000, and so on. You can see more information about flairs on the wiki.

/r/HobbyDrama Rules:

1. Follow all site-wide rules and reddiquette.

Reddit's Content Policy must be followed everywhere on the site, including this subreddit. We also enforce the reddiquette guidelines.

2. Do not insult or attack other users.

Users must remain civil during disagreements. Attack the subject you’re debating, not the person you’re discussing it with.

3. No slurs or hate speech.

Do not use language which is offensive, cruel, racist, transphobic, ableist, anti-Semitic, etc. If a term is hobby-specific or not well known in the wider world, please consider sending a modmail to clarify what the issue is.

4. No Doxxing / Redact personal information

Do not post, link to, or ask for personal information. Screenshots with a private person's real life name or information must be edited to remove or obfuscate that information. Public social media posts and posts by public figures do not need to be redacted, unless their post contains the former.

5. Drama must have concluded at least 14 days prior to post

This means there must be concrete conclusions and no new dramatic happenings within the last 14 days and consequences cannot include “it remains to be seen” or “time will tell”. Drama that is fresh and/or ongoing may be posted in the weekly Hobby Scuffles thread.

6. Consequences must be detailed

Posts must be clear about how the drama impacted the hobby/group/community/etc. Posts without any consequences are boring. Do not use this report reason for Hobby History posts.

7. No validation-seeking or awfulbrag posts

No posts where OP either is part of the drama and is saying "This other person is totally wrong and I was right" (validation seeking) or caused the drama and is saying "look how awful I am, I made all this drama happen" (awfulbrag).

8.No low-effort posts / No reposts

Posts should include include sufficient detail to be understandable to the reader and written with attention to explaining the situation, the history, and the consequences. Do not repost previously posted content or plagiarise other works. AI-generated content falls under this.

9. Influencer / YouTuber / Reddit drama

Posts which are not about a hobby should be posted to their respective subreddits, e.g. /r/YouTubeDrama, /r/SubredditDrama, etc.

10. Flair non-drama posts as Hobby History

Non-drama posts (tales and/or histories about your hobby) must be flaired as Hobby History. Hobby History posts are quality, detailed writeups of interesting non-drama events in your hobby.

11. Flair Heavy posts appropriately

Drama involving self-harm, abuse, adult content, or other topics which readers may find uncomfortable and wish to avoid must be flared with the Heavy tag.

12. Not Hobby Drama

Please review the sidebar carefully before submitting for this reason. Do not use this report reason for Hobby History posts.

13.Posts need to include sufficient sources

Posts need to include sufficient sources or evidence to back up claims specifically relating to the core drama, such as through links and screenshots (with personal information redacted). Sources can either be linked in the text or included as a list at the end of the post, or in the comments. If sources are linked in the comments, said comment(s) must be posted as soon as the post goes live.

14.Banned Topics

The mods reserve the right to ban discussion indefinitely of any topic that may attract brigading and/or result in unnecessary toxicity. List here.

Related subreddits:

/r/OutOfTheLoop/

/r/SubredditDrama/

/r/InternetDrama/

/r/youtubedrama/

/r/FandomHistory

r/blogsnark

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